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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Feb 13, 2007 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: most UNDERRATED/OVERRATED years?

[To GhostofPig]

Understood, and hard to argue w/being at the Fillmore over any stadioum anywhere.

I am envious beyond belief that you got to see them (and Pig) in such intimate and historic venues.

I guess my point wasn't in arguing over the finer points of 69-73 vs. 77-whenever...but to claim all the years after '74 OVERRATED is, I think, off point. The band had changed its sound tremendously with the changing times, and part of the Dead's remarkable place in rock history is the band's longevity.

the years post '77 til the end are as much a part of the band's legacy as the pioneering days. Even tho' i'm not a huge fan of "Touch", the simple fact is that was the band's most popular song ever, and helped the band reach vast swaths of new audiences that otherwise never would have been turned on to that music. You decide if that was a good or bad thing, it's debatable. But if one TouchHead hapened to listen to an appreciate Live/Dead or Anthem from digging Touch, I think that's OK.

More to the point, the years post 74 were years of musical growth--whether you LIKE that growth or not is besides the point. had they stayed the same as they did in 74 they never would have made it as far as they did. And BTW, they sounded a lot different in 74 than they did in 69.

'77 just aint overrated, tho'. I'll fight that one til the end!

This post was modified by grendelschoice on 2007-02-13 19:34:50

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Feb 13, 2007 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: most UNDERRATED/OVERRATED years?

"And BTW, they sounded a lot different in 74 than they did in 69."

Amazingly different. This was a band that was always changing.
Really: the whole thing is just a matter of taste. You could play me a piece or so from anytime anywhere and I might really like it. I guess the biggest thing for me is that life moves in strange directions and many of us got off the bus early on.
Who knows what we missed?

But I will say this: I don't think I could ever suffer through a blazing hot afternoon in a stadium full of folks ten or twenty years younger than I am. Yikes!

A good friend of mine (who is twenty or so years younger) said to me when Jerry died: "I'm glad I went to see them when I did." We all know Bill Graham's comment--they are not only the best at what they do, they are the only ones who do what they do--and I'm sure it held true to the end.

But, as Patrick Henry put it, "give me than choppy sloppy from the heart and soul psychedelic rock from 1969 or give me death."

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Poster: glenn Date: Feb 13, 2007 1:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: most UNDERRATED/OVERRATED years?

Yep the Grateful Dead are and were the most underrated and overrated band of their time.

If you don't listen to a broad sample from all of their material, you won't ever know how much you love their music... or which songs you hate.

Before being dragged to my first Grateful Dead show(1974 Cow Palace), I told my friends pretty firmly: "I don't want to go see some Death Rock band, I just dropped acid"...

you never know until you know, right?